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🗓️ 9 May 2024
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**This episode contains conversation about sexual behaviour**
In early modern Europe, acting upon same-sex desires was forbidden. We only know of many of the cases because of records of criminal trials. But the evidence of the past does not suggest that we can easily find a straightforward match for modern concepts of homosexuality.
In this episode of Not Just the Tudors, Professor Suzannah Lipscomb talks to Sir Noel Malcolm, whose acclaimed new book Forbidden Desire in Early Modern Europe, demonstrates that the practice of sexuality not only varies across time but, in early modern Europe, it varied across geography.
This episode was edited by Ella Blaxill and produced by Rob Weinberg.
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| 0:37.0 | Same sex desire, or at least acting on it, was especially forbidden. |
| 0:46.0 | Many of the cases of sex between men we only know of because of their appearance in criminal cases cases and many of the men involved suffered |
| 0:55.3 | excruciating execution as punishment for their so-called crimes. But how does the evidence we have allow us to access the attitudes and behavior of people |
| 1:07.7 | experiencing same-sex desire and the response of their society to them. |
| 1:13.0 | As we'll learn today, the evidence does not suggest that we can easily find a straightforward match for modern concepts of homosexuality in the past, |
| 1:22.0 | which is one reason why in the interests of |
| 1:25.4 | accuracy and not judgment historians often use the contemporary terms sodomy and |
| 1:31.0 | sodomite as descriptors. On the basis of extensive Europe-wide research |
| 1:37.0 | today's guest demonstrates in fact that the practice of sexuality not only |
| 1:41.8 | varies across time but in early modern Europe it varied |
| 1:46.2 | across geography. |
| 1:48.8 | My guest has published a new landmark study on male male sexual relations between 1400 and 1750. |
| 1:56.0 | He is Sir Noel Malcolm, senior research fellow at All Souls College Oxford. |
| 2:01.2 | He was formerly a fellow at Gondvlin Keys in Cambridge, |
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