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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

For Your Consideration: Lee C. Camp on Theology in the Raw

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8555 Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This week, we’re sharing a conversation originally recorded for Preston Sprinkle’s podcast, Theology in the Raw. It’s a wide-ranging, thoughtful dialogue that digs into political theology, Christian nationalism, just war theory, technology, and the deeper question underneath it all: What kind of people are we becoming? Lee joins Preston for an honest and at times searching conversation about the pressures facing the church in our current political and technological moment. Key Themes: Christian Nationalism — Then and Now Why Christian nationalism is not just a “right-wing” problem The surprising history of progressive Christian nationalism (Woodrow Wilson and World War I) How allegiance to a nation can distort allegiance to Christ The church’s temptation to baptize political power Recovering Forgotten Christian Traditions The pacifist roots of the Stone-Campbell movement How World War I reshaped American Christianity Why most Christians have never actually been taught the Just War tradition The difference between claiming Just War and being morally formed by it Violence, War, and Christian Witness Why the Just War tradition is far more rigorous than most assume The danger of defaulting to state power without serious moral discernment What it might mean to “bear witness to the way of Christ” in a violent world Why the church’s formation matters more than hypothetical “what would you do?” scenarios Social Media, Anger, and the Business Model of Outrage How the ad-revenue model rewards anger Why social platforms amplify division by design The spiritual consequences of living online Why disengaging can sometimes be an act of wisdom Technology, AI, and Moral Formation Drawing on Jacques Ellul’s concept of “technique” Why the real question isn’t whether technology is a tool The deeper question: What kind of character is being formed in us? Why Christians need to think more seriously about AI and moral responsibility A Life Without a Cell Phone Why Lee hasn’t owned a cell phone in eight years The “serenity tax” of opting out Anxiety, distraction, and what it means to be present The difference between using technology and being shaped by it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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pleased to share with you today something different in the NSC feed for this week's episode.

0:05.4

It's a bit more explicitly theological and a bit more insider baseball so far as some of the sorts of work I've done in the Theological Guild.

0:14.3

This is a conversation I had with Preston Sprinkle.

0:17.4

Preston is a New York Times best-selling author and biblical scholar.

0:22.2

He also hosts a long-running podcast called Theology and the Raw. The conversation you'll hear was taped for Theology

0:27.5

and Theraw, which seeks to have honest and forthright conversations, often where theology

0:32.7

meets contemporary culture. Pretty sure this was my second time on Preston's podcast. You'll hear us explore

0:40.0

political theology, the rise of Christian nationalism, and how Christian faith has been shaped,

0:46.0

often distorted by allegiance to power, nation, and ideology. Also here us talk about the ways in which

0:51.7

contemporary developments often lead us to forget elements of our past,

0:56.0

that then specifically led us into a conversation around pacifism and the Christian just war tradition.

1:01.9

Preston and I also spent some time reflecting on technology, social media,

1:05.9

why asking what kind of people we are becoming may be more important than debating tools or tactics.

1:13.1

It was a fun conversation, since it gives you a slightly different perspective on my own work,

1:17.6

we thought it might be a good one to drop into the feed for you.

1:20.6

Before we dive in, be sure to follow Theology and the Raw on your favorite podcast app.

1:24.6

Here's my conversation with Preston Sprinkle.

1:27.6

Hey, friend, if you didn't know, I started a newsletter a while back that comes out every two

1:32.1

weeks. I have been delighted to hear from so many of you about positive response to the newsletter.

1:37.4

We call it the No Small Endeavor Notebook, where I riff on themes and topics related to our podcast,

1:45.7

giving you additional material for thinking and doing in your own quest to make sense of what it might mean to live a good

1:51.2

life. Join us by going now to no small endeavor.com and sign up there. Again, go to no small endeavor.com

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