For the Holidays, Ina Garten (Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus)
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Higher Ground
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
For your Thanksgiving inspiration: a favorite episode from Wiser Than Me, where Julia sits down with legendary cook and author Ina Garten.
Over the course of her 76 years, Ina has lived a few lives: she worked on nuclear policy at the White House, ran the beloved food store Barefoot Contessa, and went on to write best-selling cookbooks and host her own hit TV shows. But what’s always defined her isn’t just the food—it’s the way she brings people together around it. In this conversation, Ina reflects on how aging has reshaped her taste, the art of simplicity, and what she’s learned about handling those quietly difficult, passive-aggressive types we all know too well.
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| 0:00.0 | Lemonada. Hey, it's Sam. Today I wanted to present a very special episode from her friends at Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis Dreyfus. Each week, Julia talks with extraordinary women |
| 0:23.1 | who bring humor, honesty, and the kind of wisdom that only comes with age. She's had guests like |
| 0:30.0 | Jane Fonda, Isabelle Iende, and Catherine O'Hara, and in honor of Thanksgiving, we wanted to share |
| 0:35.9 | her wonderful conversation with Ina Garten. |
| 0:39.1 | They talk about Ina's remarkable journey from running the barefoot contessa to eventually becoming a best-selling author and TV host. |
| 0:47.0 | She also shares why she values simplicity in cooking, how her tastes have evolved over time, and how she handles passive-aggressive |
| 0:55.2 | behavior. |
| 0:56.2 | After you listen, check out Wiser Than Me wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:00.9 | If you enjoy this talk with Ina, and I suspect you will, you can check out more episodes |
| 1:05.8 | of Wiser Than Me wherever you get your podcast. |
| 1:09.5 | We'll be back here on this show Sunday morning with |
| 1:12.2 | writer-director Noah Baumack. |
| 1:41.3 | Once in our travels when I was a little girl of about eight, I think, when my daddy, Tom was a surgeon on the Hope hospital ship, we were living in Tunisia. |
| 1:47.3 | And I remember very vividly that I was so upset with my mom because she said I had to finish my dinner before I had dessert, which made no sense at all. |
| 1:54.2 | And there was another couple there who were working with my dad. And the woman in the couple |
| 1:59.6 | said, well, how about I take you out for lunch, |
| 2:02.8 | just you and me, and then you can have dessert first. And so that was very appealing, as you can |
| 2:10.5 | imagine. And I did. We went to lunch and I ordered a huge hot fudge Sunday, I mean, just huge, |
| 2:16.7 | and I just gobbled that fucker up. |
| 2:19.5 | And then when it was time to actually order lunch, well, I couldn't really order lunch |
| 2:25.0 | because I was too full. |
| 2:26.9 | But I assure you of one thing, I did not learn a lesson that day. |
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