This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Hello, everybody. Today we're going to talk about the science of why we get burned out and how we can fix it.

Emily and Amelia Nagoski are the co-authors of a best-selling book called Burnout, The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle.

In this conversation, we talk about the three characteristics of burnout, the difference between addressing stressful circumstances in your life, dealing with the actual physical experience of stress, and the evidence-based interventions you can try right now.

A couple of notes here.

The Nagoski's book places a heavy emphasis on burnout among women, but this interview is designed to be useful for everybody. Also,

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Emily and Amelia, welcome to the show.

Hi.

Hello.

You write something very compelling that I think is a good place to start.

You have said that, and I'm quoting here, we wrote it, meaning this book, because it's the book we needed ourselves.

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