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For #SchoolChoiceWeek, Scoring the Rhetoric of Educational Freedom

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🗓️ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

For fans of educational freedom, is "Fund students, not systems" a slogan worth repeating? Does it earn new supporters or is it just insider language? Jason Bedrick offers his thoughts.

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, January 25th, 2022.

0:07.0

I'm Caleb Brown. As Families Mark School Choice Week, it's worth understanding more

0:11.8

deeply some of the rhetoric surrounding

0:13.5

educational freedom like fund students not systems. It's a popular slogan

0:18.6

but is it a good one? Does it communicate anything to people who aren't already on team school choice?

0:24.8

Jason Bedrick offers his thoughts.

0:26.9

I guess I want to start with what generated this conversation, which was a reporter

0:31.8

in Louisville, Kentucky who works at my most recent former hometown

0:36.6

paper, the Louisville Courier Journal, suggesting that Fund Students, not Systems systems was in a sense a bad slogan because the tax credits

0:48.7

that were created in Kentucky's landmark school choice reform that was passed last year was a system of

0:58.1

tax credits and suggested that people like you and me probably would not want to have that conversation about whether or not that is a good slogan.

1:07.0

So we're sort of here to have that conversation now. We invited Olivia to join us. She was unable to do so. So let's evaluate what

1:16.6

school choice people mean when they say fund students not systems.

1:23.0

Yeah, so I think that the main critique is that while there's still a system, but we're not saying

1:29.1

that there's not going to be a system or multiple different systems. The question is whether the state is

1:36.7

directly funding that system or if the state is funding the students. Now what's the difference? Well think of it in terms of

1:47.7

alleviating hunger, right? Should the government fund a system of food banks or give people food stamps? Well, what's the difference? Either way there's a system, whether either food banks or grocery stores and people are getting food.

2:03.6

But there is a major difference, right?

2:05.1

If the food banks are getting the money directly,

2:07.4

then they're going to be primarily accountable to the government

2:09.8

and not directly accountable to the people that they are serving.

2:14.0

The grocery store on the other hand is accountable primarily to their customers.

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