Hey, everyone, I'm Jen Hatmaker, host of the For the Love podcast. Every week, I'm joined by my dear

friend Amy, and we dive into the good stuff. So it's real stories, honest conversation,

super inspiring guests who help us make sense of life and love and faith and just this whole

messy middle. We talk about career pivots. We talk about parenting,

teens and young adults, dating again, hello, and just all the ways we're still becoming. We

laugh, we sometimes cry, we definitely learn, and we certainly don't take ourselves too seriously.

So whether you are chasing purpose or you're rebuilding or maybe just

trying to keep your plans alive, there is a seat for you at our table. New episodes drop every

week. So hit subscribe and come hang out with us on For the Love. Last week on Campus Files.

I called the phone number on the ad for Brooks, and then he started asking me questions

about my life.

Not much money is spent on education.

A lot of the money goes to advertising and recruiting.

I enter my recruiter's office and he is angry.

And he turns to me and he goes,

I am so sorry, these people are liars.

The for-profit college industry ran wild in the 2000s.

50% of our income went to these loans for many, many years.

Gaming borrowers from these schools is by design.

It's intentional.

My experiences with education have been life-changing, and it was really a surprise to me to find out how different other people's experiences could be.

That's Eileen Connor.

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