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Boardroom with Rich Kleiman

For Mark Jackson, Christmas Day at Madison Square Garden Still Hits Different

Boardroom with Rich Kleiman

Boardroom Podcast Network

Sports, Business, Entrepreneurship

4.4620 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Mark Jackson sits down with Rich Kleiman to reflect on the history and spotlight of NBA games on Christmas as a player, a coach, and a fan in a very special conversation, presented by State Farm®. Jackson discusses the commitment it takes as a player to weather the holidays and the sacrifice everyone on the business side makes in forgoing family for hoops on Christmas Day. He explains why Patrick Ewing stands alone as the greatest Knick of all time, breaking down leadership, toughness, and what Ewing represented to New York basketball. Jackson also revisits his time coaching the Golden State Warriors, including insights into Stephen Curry’s growth, mindset, and what made those Warriors teams special. He opens up about Rick Pitino and why he remains the most influential and respected coach of his career. Throughout the interview, Jackson connects eras of the game, blending history with the modern evolution of basketball. He offers a candid, legacy-driven look at basketball through the eyes of someone who has lived it as a player, coach, and voice of the sport.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's not even close.

0:01.0

Who the greatest nick of all time is. It's disrespect to name anybody else. You expect to be coaching again soon? I expect to it. They'll understand the work that was done by me and my staff and that incredible franchise. Talent level is far superior today. Now the players back then were smarter, but certainly today, it's faster, more athletic, more versatile. Now the question is, do you hang the banner up? You know, New Yorkers, you don't hang up that banner.

0:23.6

What's up, everybody, and welcome to Boardroom Talks Holiday Edition.

0:29.6

Today we have the most special guests that I could ever have, my favorite basketball player of all time,

0:35.6

and he knows that. I know more about his career than he knows. So please without further to do, welcome New York City legend my friend Mark Jackson. Appreciate it, bro. What's up, man? I wish I could say you was lying that you knew more than me, but that's the absolute truth. It's scary, right? It's very scary. It's been scary. It's been scary. I understand it now.

0:55.0

If we weren't friends, it was bordering on sounding a bit insane, right? Initially, I started to contemplate blocking your phone calls. I was worried. I worked my whole life for that number. If you had blocked me, that would have been heartbreaking. This is a holiday edition. So we're going to talk first a little bit about Christmas Day games.

1:12.0

And I bet you again, I remember more than you remember, but you

1:14.8

played in two, you coached in one, and you commentated a few. Do you remember the two you played in?

1:20.1

Detroit and then what was the second one? Oh Toronto, right? Yeah. I do remember those, especially

1:26.9

the Detroit one because, you know, obviously that special team and the great history and playing against legends was quite memorable and especially on Christmas.

1:36.6

And that was your rookie year, right?

1:38.1

Yeah, I believe so. Yes, it was my rookie year. No, it was, bro. Playing Isaiah Thomas and obviously Joe Dumas in that great piston team.

1:45.0

Do you remember what that felt like and just the magnitude of it?

1:49.0

And was it a different vibe in the garden?

1:51.0

The vibe in the garden is always on 10.

1:53.0

Yeah.

1:54.0

But when you talk about Christmas and you're talking about a legendary team that you're facing with legendary

1:59.0

historic players, it has a special kick to it.

2:01.6

And for me, growing up in New York City, I remember going to St. John's and then going to a Nick Pistons game

2:08.6

and standing in the tunnel watching Isaiah Thomas warm up. And when he finished warming up, he walked towards the tunnel.

2:14.6

I didn't know him. He stopped. And I'm sitting there nervous like

2:17.9

Isaiah Thomas. And he goes, Mark Jackson, I love your game, man. He started talking to me.

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