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For LGBTQ Catholics, a lot depends on the next pope

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🗓️ 6 May 2025

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Summary

On the eve of the conclave to elect a new pope, some of the biggest questions hanging in the air have to do with LGBTQ Catholics. Will the church continue the path of outreach charted by Pope Francis, softening its harsh positions? Will it allow LGBTQ Catholics to fully participate in the church?

The Rev. James Martin, an American Jesuit priest, has built a ministry aimed at making gay, lesbian and transgender people feel more welcome in the Catholic church and advised Francis on the issue. He says Francis himself changed the church, but so did the many LGBTQ Catholics who have come out — changing the church at the level of the family and parish. That trend, he says, will continue.

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on to the episode. On the eve of the conclave to elect the next pope, St. Peter Square in the Vatican is bustling

0:56.8

with activity. There are tourists and religious pilgrims. There are also a lot of reporters

1:01.9

waiting to spot the stars of the coming event, the Cardinals who will vote to elect the next

1:06.8

head of the Roman Catholic Church.

1:16.4

When any of them walked through the square, dressed in their black cassocks, straped with red sashes, and often holding briefcases, people swarm them.

1:20.2

As cardinals make their way through the square, they're being stopped by reporters and also

1:24.5

being stopped by people asking for blessings.

1:26.4

It's an interesting mix.

1:27.7

One of the big questions hanging in the air, whether the church will continue the path

1:31.9

Pope Francis set in softening its harsh positions on LGBTQ Catholics and whether they can

1:37.9

fully participate in the church. To better understand this tension point, we walked a few blocks

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off the square. Thanks for meeting us.

1:44.8

Of course. Let's see if we can get a space in here.

1:47.1

And meet an American priest wearing a green Philadelphia Eagles cap.

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