This podcast is brought to you by Netflix presenting Frankenstein,

a film by Academy Award-winning director and writer Guillermo del Toro,

now nominated for 11 Critics Choice Awards,

including Best Picture, Director, Adapted Screenplay, and Supporting Actor for Jacob Allorty.

Critics hail it, a stunning epic with piercing humanity,

and the New York Times raves Frankenstein is the movie Guillermo del Toro was born to make

for your awards consideration.

Hello and welcome to Little Gold Men, Vanity Fair's podcast for film, TV, and awards lovers.

I'm Rebecca Ford.

My guest today is Jacob Allorty, who delivers one of the year's most stunning performances as the creature in Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein.

As he told me in this interview, it was a role that required him to completely rethink the way he interacts with the world.

We chatted about the sacred collaborative space Guillermo del Toro fostered for this project,

returning to euphoria after spending so much time in the film world, and why he has no patience for AI.

He also taught me a very handy Aussie phrase that I'm definitely going to be

using from now on. Let's dive in. Jacob, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you for having me.

So from what I've read, there was another actor attached to this role, but he dropped out,

and you came in with only about nine weeks before production. Did that feel like a fast turnaround

for you? Were you worried about it at the time? Well, I was in the middle of production on a show

by Justin Kerrzel, called the Narrow Road to the Deep North, and it was quite an intense sort of thing.

So they called me in the middle of that with nine weeks, and then I still had five weeks to go on that.

So I ended up having about four weeks to seriously sit down and consider everything at home

where I like to sit and think up on my hill. But I had started sort of letting little pieces of the

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