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The Dream

For Art's Sake

The Dream

Little Everywhere

Business, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.615.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

This week host Jane Marie explores the art of creativity with art advisor, curator, and co-host of the podcast Hyde or Practice, Alexis Hyde.


You can find more from Alexis Hyde here:


TikTok: @hydeordie

Podcast: Hyde or Practice


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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Jane Marie, and this is The Dream.

0:04.2

So I'm reading this book, just started it, and it has a great name. Ready?

0:08.4

The Salmon Cannon and the Levitating Frog and Other Serious Discoveries of Silly Science,

0:13.8

by Dr. Carly Ann York.

0:16.2

It's basically about the value of doing science for curiosity's sake.

0:21.1

For example, back in the 50s, some scientists in Japan wondered what made a certain type of jellyfish glow.

0:27.3

I wonder that as well.

0:29.5

They found out that there's a thing called green fluorescent protein or GFP.

0:34.0

Since then, a bunch of scientists have tried to find cool ways to use GFP, and one of them won the Nobel Prize in 2008 for using it to identify cancer cells, their spread, and the effects of treatment.

0:46.7

If that question was being asked today in the U.S., I'm not sure that anyone would care or that they would have any funding.

0:54.3

So I'm in the middle of reading that book, which is basically an argument for pursuing knowledge.

0:59.4

When this week, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting got shut down.

1:04.1

CPB was a nonprofit established in 1967 by Congress. Congress owned it.

1:08.9

To quote, ensure universal access to non-commercial, high-quality content.

1:15.0

The stuff of dreams. They funded things like Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers, Frontline, all things considered. Why?

1:22.6

Because at one point, we agreed as a nation that education and entertainment didn't need to be created just to sell

1:30.4

oil or insurance, and that it might benefit society, liberal whack jobs. And all of that got me

1:37.5

thinking about art for art's sake, which I thought was just a saying, but it's actually a philosophy.

1:41.4

I looked it up. And it argues that art is valuable in and of itself.

1:45.5

It doesn't have to be political and it's not just for certain audiences. In fact, it can be for no audience at all. Just the act of creating it holds value. Go write a poem, you'll see. And thinking about all of that made me want to talk to this woman. I'm Alexis Hyde. I'm an art curator and art advisor in

2:01.5

L.A., and I'm also the executive director of the Quinn-Emmanuel Arts Foundation.

2:06.2

What is all of that? Absolutely. Okay, I'll start from the beginning. Art curator is the person

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