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freshest streaming service. It's a leisure activity. I've got Jonathan Lou with me to talk about football in the Neil and Strand.

To talk about how the weight, he sent me a very interesting message and I liked it immediately in that the concern he has

around football is the way he has become too much to bear that the game is just going to buckle

if the if the constancy of everything being picked apart continues then

the game buckles under the weight of it all the weight is too much to bear that seems to sort of be the case across the board this season and yet the

whole Bahamov powers on. Well I mean I guess there were two related points, and one of them is football is too big.

I have a very strong contention that football has got too big.

And that's a point about capitalism, and that's about, I guess that's about how it has just become too large and everywhere.

You know, that's why you now have 12 month seasons, that's why, you know know people can't

You know people can't you know people can't

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