Both my parents said, and my dad in particular, that he would be disappointed in me.

He goes, I don't care so much about grades, but I'd be really disappointed in you, Nick.

And I thought, oh, boy, here it comes.

You know, I'm 14 years old.

You know, I'm going to have to go into advertising or something.

He goes, if you don't try a million things and find what you love. That is probably the single best piece

of parenting advice that I could give anybody. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Art to Life

podcast. I'm back from a four or five day backpack trip with my daughters in Colorado. It was so great, mostly because there was no cell service, but I just turned everything off and spent most of my time walking and hiking and talking. And it was just so, so great. We all know this. It's so good to take a break.

But man, when you don't for a while, you kind of forget that you need to. And then, you know, I had planned this trip a long time ago.

It came at a really busy time for me, but I went anyway. And my older daughter, Lila, lives in Brooklyn.

Hannah lives on the West Coast.

So anyway, we flew to Colorado, kind of right in between,

and we did this backpack trip in the Maroon Bells Wilderness Area.

But it was just so beautiful and such a great break.

And while I was walking around and just thinking, it's a great process. There's

an editing that goes on when you're out there in nature, and at least for me. And I was just

thinking, well, what are the important things? You know, like what are the most important things

I want to share right now? And they're the things often that I share with you that I'm needing. This has always been what I've been doing.

I've been figuring this out for myself and just sharing the process of finding my way.

And it turns out that's helpful.

I hear from so many of you.

And by way, thank you so much for leaving all those great comments and thoughts on the speak pipe, the little utility. If you go to

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