Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Jorley. Thank you for all of your nice messages

and tweets and things about Friday's episode. The Sunday shows part two. We're all about David

Foster and Breakfast Breakfast. Coming up this week, we're going to take a look at on the record

the Sunday lunch time political show presented by Jonathan Dimblebee and then John Humphrey's

as a crack in listen. So that's coming up later on this week. Today though, we are following

the Russian money as MPs debate another crackdown on dodgy Russian money in the UK. We'll speak to

some of those who know this issue best and ask, is this enough? First though, we kick off with our

columnist panel, No Libby Ratchie today. Instead, we've got Times Diplomatic Editor Roger Boys

and Deputy Property Editor, Cowell Lewis. Now, Roger, you've just returned from Poland. Yeah,

the Polish-Ukrainian border. Explain what it is like there having seen it with your own eyes.

Well, it's absolutely chaotic, obviously. A million people have entered Poland in the last week.

And this is a kind of small, I wrote, scruffy town and I got lots of criticism online for that.

But it is. It's a typical border town that was, you know, a smuggling town originally.

And it's just ill-equipped for this kind of flood of people. They come on the train from Kiev

at the moment, but they'll come from other cities, probably, too. Sometimes it's people who fled

one city like Kharkiv to Kiev. And then from Kiev, they moved to Lviv and they eventually arrive here

at this place. And it's, you know, obviously the name of the place of others? Psymishol. And I'm

glad you asked me that. And, you know, often 30 hours on the way, the whole of the Polish

train system in southern Poland is completely loused up here. There's because they just can't

deal with the volumes of people. You know, Ukrainian mothers and children are sort of whisked

away to gymnasiums and converted warehouses and waiting for people to take them. And having to

share the whole with Kyrgyz people and Tajiks and so on, people who'd fled the Afghan war to Ukraine

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