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We just came back from one of our captivating retreats and I had the privilege of playing more of a role in this one than I normally do.

But one of the things that I was just absolutely intrigued to watch, Craig Craig was your wife. Watch

Lori in the context of a group of women.

Lori kind of came into this whole captivating retreat thing,

kicking and screaming.

She, in the sense of she's like,

I'm not a professional speaker.

I'm not an upfront women's ministry gal.

And we kept saying, no lorry like you're super qualified

just you don't know it just for other reasons and then to watch women just flock around her want to be with her.

What do you think is going on there?

Yeah, John, I think the draw to Lori is not primarily her insight or

communication, but I think she's just has the heart of a mother in the presence of a mother. I mean at one point she was describing

just like sitting in for a time of worship and she had one gal that was just on her lap and just crying over brokenness

and wounds for 45 minutes straight.

And Lori was just had her with her head on her shoulder was just

hold her and then her her free arm was on the knee of a woman behind her who was

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