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That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

Focus: Cal Newport

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

ESPN Radio

Sports

3.93.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2019

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Sarah talks to author and Georgetown professor Cal Newport about how social media companies have hacked our brains to get us to continually use their products, how the American workforce struggles with unbroken concentration, the constant companion model, and ways to digitally declutter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she said.

0:04.6

Well, that's what she said.

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Welcome to That's what she said. Conversations with interesting people from the world of sports,

0:15.7

music, comedy and more. Talk about their lives, careers, successes and failures.

0:21.1

I'm Cal DuPort and my dilemma is that I have way more books than I'll ever have time to read.

0:26.4

Okay, so I felt personally judged when Marie Kondo told everyone they shouldn't have more than

0:30.8

30 books in the house. And then I felt personally seen when a meme popped up that responded,

0:36.4

you mean like on my nightside table? Now Kondo did clarify that if books spark joy, you can keep

0:41.9

as many as you like, which I most certainly have. But I would guess that she'd still want me and

0:46.2

you Cal to keep our endless supply of books tidied up in some way. So the problem of course is

0:51.4

that we want the next book on our list to be right in front of us, calling us, pleading with us to

0:55.8

open it and get going already. And once it's off on a shelf somewhere, it's really easy to forget

1:00.5

about it or put it off. So you've inspired me to solve this dilemma not just for you, but for me as

1:05.2

well because my side table is currently, I believe at nine books. So here's the rule for you for me

1:12.1

for everybody. You are allowed just two books on your nightside table, the one you're currently

1:17.2

reading and the next one up. The rest of the books that you're most excited to read should go on a

1:22.4

designated shelf on the bookshelf in the order that you want to read them separate from all the

1:27.6

other books on the bookshelf. There needs to be a space so that once you've finished your current book,

1:32.9

the next one slides up into that second spot on your nightside table and you don't feel like you're

1:37.6

going to risk misplacing or forgetting about a book that you know you really want to put in that

1:41.9

list. The love of fixed. Now the only problem is if you were more worried about finding the time to

1:47.6

read them, I'm not really sure I can help you there. That is a problem that I have and you're the

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