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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Flourishing with Mental Illness

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

How to help patients build fulfilling lives even in the face of unremitted illness.CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this Episode (https://www.thecarlatreport.com/blogs/2-the-carlat-psychiatry-podcast/post/5340-flourishing-with-mental-illness)Published On: 03/17/2025Duration: 15 minutes, 19 secondsChris Aiken, MD, Margaret Chislom, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

Today we look at how to help patients live better lives, with or without recovery from mental illness.

0:09.5

Welcome to the Carlet Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:14.9

I'm Chris Akin, the editor-in-chief of the Carlet Psychiatry Report.

0:18.6

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP and a dedicated reader of every issue.

0:26.2

In 1964, Joanne Greenberg published a book about her experience with mental illness.

0:33.0

I never promised you a Rose Garden would go on to sell millions of copies

0:36.6

who was adapted into a movie, a play, and a hit country song.

0:41.3

The title comes from something her psychoanalyst, Frida Fran Rickman, told her when she was a patient at Chestnut Lodge.

0:49.3

I never promised you a Rose Garden.

0:52.3

It echoes Freud's comment that the goal of psychoanalysis is to replace

0:56.4

neurotic misery with ordinary unhappiness. And why do we start a podcast on flourishing on such a

1:03.2

dour note? Because we're about to look at how to help people with mental illness lead more fulfilling

1:09.2

lives, and I want to keep this grounded as we go forth.

1:13.2

Life is hard. Mental illness is hard. Full recovery isn't always possible, and part of recovery

1:20.4

is learning to ride the ebb and flow of ordinary unhappiness, something we all do, but is a little

1:26.4

more difficult when the symptoms you're

1:28.4

used to seeking medical treatment for, anxiety, depression, insomnia, bear an uncanny resemblance

1:35.9

to the symptoms of everyday life.

1:39.5

Today we're going to look at what science has found about flourishing and how we can help

1:44.3

our patients use that knowledge to convert some of that ordinary unhappiness into joy,

1:49.7

inspiration and contentment. It's the final coda to our interview series with Margaret

1:54.3

Chisholm, who wrote about flourishing in her book, from Survive to Thrive, Living Your Best

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