Hi friends, welcome back to the Grove podcast. It's Francesca Price here, and today we're bringing

you a conversation that is full of honesty, wisdom, and deep encouragement. Shelly Giglio is

joined by her dear friend in a longtime Grove girl, Jenny Lesko. Jenny is a best-selling author, podcast host, wife, Mama 5, and she pastors Fresh Life Church

alongside her husband, Levi.

Jenny's journey of obedience, faith, heartbreak, and flourishing has inspired so many

of us.

Together, they unpack what it looks like to become the women got intended, not through

the dramatic moments, but through the quiet daily yeses that shape our character. Whether you're

in a season of growth, waiting, struggle, or renewal, this conversation will meet you right

where you are. Let's dive in.

Hey, I'd love to talk to you today. We have Jenny Lesko with us on the Grove podcast, and she is

obviously a favorite. You've been on several times. I think you and Olivia have been on. We've

had you a few times, which we love. You've been to the

grove. We consider you a Grove girl, so I hope you consider yourself that. I absolutely do.

You are grafted in, which we love. I'm so grateful. Oh, we love you so much. So, so thankful

for your life. I think of all the things that I've gotten to see your life kind of explode over the

years. It's so fun to watch you. You wrote a book about flourishing, but to actually watch you flourish

is so much better than any of the book could ever be. And I think, you know, God was prophetic through you

in a lot of ways and wrote that book as you were learning.

And you're obviously still learning. We're all still learning. I'm 61. I know less today I feel like than I've ever known in my life. So I don't know if it's just an awareness. Like, seriously. I don't know much. I really don't. I'm learning. I have so much to learn.

Same about God and people and relationships. And I mean, just, I feel like every day there's more, which is amazing. I want to continue to grow. But I feel like God was so prophetic in so many ways to you, because you wrote a book that you were learning about how to flourish in the person of God and who he had really created and made you to be. As you were learning, God was

growing that in you and watching your life come to that state and obviously you have a long way to go,

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