Hey there everybody this is JVL every Friday Sarah Longwell and I do a secret

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Here's the show. All right to anyway. Can we just walk then? Can we do a minute and a half on the Trump

de Santa's thing? Because this was all kicked off by our colleague Damon Linker who wrote a piece in the New York Times,

Bank to Differ, which I think got him just a very bad week on Twitter and a lot of people I think interacted with that

not the best faith and a couple people took disagreements with it Jonathan Chait and John Gans, in ways which I thought were very productive,

because they weren't like total disagreements, they were like, yes, but you have to understand, they were sort of, they were really trying to dig in on it.

So I wrote about that this week you

may or may not have read it. And my contention is that sure I think Trump is more

more dangerous is more likely to be more dangerous right so which is to say that if I if I had a if I had a few handed me a remote control with two buttons one for Trump one for DeSampas and you said you have to push one of those buttons and

that guy's gonna become the next president right I would push DeSantis not

with total confidence but with my best guess based on cognitive functioning. Like he does seem able to like

intake information and make rational decisions and he does seem to understand what the reality of the world around him looks like.

The fact that he has not yet prosecuted a violent coup to overthrow the government of the United States.

And also on the very, very thin wish that maybe he doesn't mean any of it, right?

Which probably isn't true, right?

But, you know, this is the normy Republican.

This is why they, conservatism makes all flocked to him,

because they insist, ah, he doesn't mean any of it.

This is just posturing to get, this is what you got to do to get past Trump.

I'm just not to, I know you're kind of, but I don't think that's true. That's not that they don't, he doesn't mean any that they like what he says.

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