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Hello and welcome to True Crime Daily, the podcast covering high profile and under the radar

cases from across the country every week on your host Anna Garcia. We're recording this on May 26,

2021 and today we are joined by a great friend of the show clinical and forensic neuro psychologist

and author Dr Judy Ho. Hi Judy. Hi Anna, so nice to see you. Oh, so nice to see you Judy. We

are going to need a therapy session after this episode because of the cases we have. Honestly,

we are for sure. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Yeah, very deep breath. They both involve children.

They both involve abductions and one has a happy ending and the other one does not. And what I

think our takeaway is going to be from this is that sense of fighting, learning, always being aware.

And of course there's also an age difference here because I think honestly when you're only

four years old, you have a lot of limited abilities just because you are so young, so young.

Right. So we're going to need your insight. And yes, a little therapy at the end, maybe some wave

music. I mean, because this one is tough. Okay, our case is this week. There's the horrifying case

of four year old Cash Gernan, whose body was found left for dead in the street like a piece of

trash. He had been abducted from his bed while this little boy was sleeping. But first we have

the case of an 11 year old girl who narrowly escapes being kidnapped. And it was all caught

on camera. This case is terrifying, but it is inspirational. Okay. And I'm sure many of you have

heard about it because it made not only national, but international headlines because of this

brazen attempt to steal this child in broad daylight outside. I mean, it's honestly, if you

had recounted what happened without the video, it would never be as jarring. Then when you match

the two together and we're going to show you those videos. Judy, wow. All right. So the little girl

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