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Amy & T.J.

Flipping on the Feds?

Amy & T.J.

iHeartPodcasts

News, Society & Culture, Tv & Film

3.33K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

As the prosecution works to land its final blows, one witness may have just swung the spotlight in the wrong direction—and Aubrey’s here to unpack every twist

Joined by attorney Emily Simpson, Aubrey breaks down the bizarre turns in Jane Doe’s cross-examination: from a warm courtroom hug with Diddy’s defense attorney to the bombshell claim that her legal fees are being paid by the very man she’s testifying against.

Together, they dissect what it means when the last victim on the stand appears to blur the lines between accuser and ally. Is Jane caught between trauma and loyalty—or executing a strategy no one saw coming?

The prosecution’s case has been powerful. But this witness? She’s a wildcard.

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:05.3

Amy and T.J. presents Aubrey O'Day, covering the Diddy Trial.

0:11.7

What's up, everyone? This is Aubrey O'Day, and this is TJ and Amy presents me,

0:17.5

Aubrey O'Day, covering the Diddy Trial. I am back with Emily Simpson.

0:23.8

I am so excited to be talking to her again

0:26.6

because we are just a gag, girl.

0:28.6

Me and you get together,

0:29.8

and we just start unloading on everyone.

0:32.5

Yeah, we are not your typical reality stars, are we?

0:36.9

Or maybe we are. Or maybe we are. We're not your typical reality stars, are we? Or maybe we are.

0:40.1

We're definitely a duo not to be messed with.

0:45.9

So let's, let me do a little recap of Jane just because she was on the stand for a good amount of time last week.

0:56.0

And, you know, I did one episode that was really trying to find as much compassion and grace in my heart as I could for

1:01.6

her being a victim. But I also was able to parallel that with, it seems like she somehow

1:08.7

learned along the way how to manipulate people in order to get

1:11.9

what she wanted out of situations as well. And that's a complicated thing to, it's a complicated

1:18.8

layered situation to enter into. She just kept on going down that train though, didn't she?

1:25.1

And it got worse and worse for me. One thing I want to say,

1:30.4

who gets on a stand for the prosecution and has not only just their home and their lifestyle,

1:37.0

but their attorney paid for by the man that they are there to sit and and call their abuser and the perpetrator

1:47.6

and the person that should be going to jail for crimes. Can you explain that to me? Because I haven't

1:52.5

heard anything that makes any of that makes sense. You know, I honestly, I found that part to be

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