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Your eyes on the times, you walk ready to speak up, but with so many problems, you're

exhausted trying to keep up.

This is the church politics podcast where you can get political commentary from a biblical worldview.

We're not trying to be conservative or progressive.

We're trying to be Christian in the public square.

And I'm black as heaven.

I'm made in God's image.

Nobody can change my settings.

Amen, cut off my knees and put it into my search.

It's easy to sell your soul and you don't know what it's worth.

With you no good, Anne Camp, you're listening to the Ann Campaign's Church Politics

podcast with Justin Gibney, aka Bishop Cooper's grandson, and the windy city representative,

the baddest brother above the Masonason dixon line my play cousin

the right reverend christopher butler how's it going chris man it's been a while since we've been on

here together but it's always good to be back man what's going on yes indeed it is a beautiful

beginning to the day it's my oldest son corn's birthday. So off to a lovely start.

Awesome. Well, happy birthday, a young butler. Chris, there's something that's been really on my mind,

and I think I would be remiss not to talk about it, even though it's somewhat of a touchy subject.

As you know, a good portion of our

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