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Unclear and Present Danger

Flight of the Intruder (feat. Jonathan Katz)

Unclear and Present Danger

Jamelle Bouie

History, Society & Culture, Tv & Film

4.7660 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2022

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

On this 11th episode of Unclear and Present Danger, Jamelle and John are joined by the journalist and author Jonathan Katz to talk John Milius' 1991 Vietnam drama, “Flight of the Intruder.” Among many other things, they talk Milius' work and career, the place of Vietnam in American’s historical memory, the political impact of the Gulf War, and the search for meaning through conflict.

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Links from the episode!

New York Times front-page for January 18, 1991

Roger Ebert’s review

The American Conservative on John Milius

Transcript

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0:00.0

The men who fly the A6 intruders at Vietnam are as calm in the air.

0:12.0

It's going to be the most exciting thing you've ever done with your clothes on.com.

0:16.0

As they are on the ground, Danny Glover.

0:20.0

Yeah! You know something I don't know?

0:23.6

Willem DeFoe.

0:25.6

Brad Johnson.

0:28.6

I grounded you.

0:30.6

Hey, I am on the ground.

0:32.6

Rosanna Arquette.

0:36.6

Hey me here. You got a chance alone.

0:41.8

You're going back to your wife and kids.

0:47.8

Flight of the Intruder. wonder. The The Welcome to Episode 11 of Unclear and Present Danger, a podcast about the political and military thrillers with the 1990s and what they say about the politics of that decade.

1:30.7

I'm Jamel Bowie. I'm a columnist for the New York Times opinion section.

1:34.5

My name is John Gans. I write a column for Gawker, and I'm working on a book about American politics in the early 90s.

1:41.5

And we have a guest for today's episode. We have Jonathan Katz, who is the author of a new book

1:48.8

on Smetley Butler and American Marine and sort of famous early 20th century figure and the beginnings

1:57.4

of American Empire. So John, welcome to the show. Hey, thank you.

2:01.6

Thank you for having me.

2:02.5

Welcome.

2:03.1

Can you let the audience know what the book is called because I suddenly forgot?

2:07.3

Yes.

2:08.0

It is called Gangsters of Capitalism, Smedley Butler, the Marines, and the making and breaking of America's Empire.

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