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Let's Know Things

Fleet Electrification

Let's Know Things

Colin Wright

News Commentary, News

4.8593 Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

This week we talk about LLVs, NGDVs, and electric school buses.

We also discuss hydrogen, delivery vehicles, and Amazon.

Show notes / transcript: https://letsknowthings.com/episode323



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0:00.0

The Grumman Long Life Vehicle, or LLV, is a boxy light transport truck that will be most recognizable to anyone who's from or anyone who's ever visited the United States as a mail truck. That's because the LLV was designed by Grumman, an aerospace company, after it won a contract with the United States Postal Service to design something that would be

0:37.7

economical to operate, capable of squeezing around tight corners and through tiny urban

0:43.3

streets, and able to putter around from city to country to suburban areas for decades at a time,

0:50.3

ideally for 24 years, as that was the lifespan the USPS specified in its brief to companies that pitched the agency on their proposals.

1:00.6

So these trucks are everywhere throughout the United States, and they've been everywhere for a long time.

1:06.6

Before the LLC was introduced, most mail carriers in the U.S.

1:13.2

drove a Jeep DJ, also called a Dispatcher model, that was originally produced by a company called Willie's Motors in

1:18.5

1955, which was then rebranded as Kaiser Jeep in 1963, then ultimately scooped up by American

1:26.3

Motors Corporation, AMC, in 1970.

1:29.3

AMC wanted the Jeep brand to add to their growing catalog of automobile models,

1:34.3

but was then itself scooped up by Chrysler in 1987.

1:38.3

And again, the Jeep brand was kind of the crown jewel instigating that purchase.

1:43.3

And the Jeep DJ, in its many iterations, was part of the crown jewel instigating that purchase, and the Jeep DJ, in its many iterations,

1:46.7

was part of the appeal of Jeep for Chrysler as a government contract can be a pretty profitable

1:53.1

and reliable paycheck. The initially newfangled LLC had some advantages over the also

2:00.4

quite reliable and cheap and easy to upkeep,

2:03.5

Jeep DJ, though. Its internal arrangement in particular allowed mail carriers to get closer to

2:09.2

curbs, where mailboxes were typically perched, and to more easily grab pre-sorted mail

2:14.7

from where they are seated while driving, without ever having to leave the seat.

2:19.0

It also boasts an incredibly tight turning radius and a 1,000 pound, which is about 450 kilograms cargo capacity,

2:27.1

enabled in part by its low-geared three-speed transmission and low-riding axles.

2:33.1

In theory, the LLV gets something like 17 miles per gallon on average, but in practice it gets something closer to 10 miles per gallon because of all the stop and go driving mail carriers have to do in regions where this truck is optimal.

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