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Ukrainecast

Fleeing the Call Up

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Men flee conscription into the army as referendums start in Russian occupied Ukraine.

Victoria and Vitaliy take stock of an eventful week in the Ukraine war with Samantha De Bendern, a former NATO adviser and political risk consultant and former BBC Moscow correspondent, Daniel Sandford.

And Vitaliy talks to Yulia Rubanova a violinist with the Ukrainian Freedom Orchestra about her early life in Mariupol, her fears for her parents who were stranded there during Russian bombardment and how incredible it felt to play with her fellow countrymen on a world tour.

Today’s episode was produced by Clare Williamson, Ivana Davidovic and Arsenii Sokolov. The planning producer is Louise Hidalgo. The editor is Jonathan Aspinwall.

Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, it's 212 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine.

0:06.6

And as you know, Ukraine has been tracking this conflict from the very first day.

0:11.4

No one is in any doubt that this has been the most extraordinary week,

0:16.2

with huge significance for Ukraine, for Russia, for the whole world.

0:20.7

Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization to boost Russian forces in Ukraine.

0:27.4

Considering the need to support the operation of the Ministry of Defense and General Staff,

0:32.9

and almost immediately protest started.

0:41.3

Huge numbers of Russians have headed for the border forming enormous queues

0:47.0

on Russia's borders with countries like Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Finland.

0:52.0

Tickets, airline tickets, have sold out within hours of present-putting,

0:56.3

making the announcement about partial mobilizations.

1:00.4

Other Russians are being conscripted, families are being torn apart,

1:04.7

as young men are being drafted in.

1:14.6

And today, voting is taking place in four Russian-occupied regions of Ukraine,

1:21.0

so-called referendums, where people will be asked if they want to join Russia.

1:25.7

And of course, the answer is very likely to be yes, because they don't have much choice.

1:30.6

But the leader of the self-proclaimed Donetsk people's republic, Dennis Poshilin, defended the votes.

1:38.8

This referendum is a historical milestone,

1:42.2

not only because we are certain the result will be positive,

1:45.3

but because this is a combination of our shared, difficult journey.

1:50.9

In this episode, what it all means for Ukraine, Russia, and for all of us,

1:56.8

what will happen next?

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