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Hi there, I'm Azim Azar and you're listening to the exponential view podcast.

Each week I get into deep conversation with a brilliant mind and we dissect our world

and it's intricate dance with technology.

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Now my guest today is Sinan Errol.

He is the head of the MIT's social analytics lab and the David Austin professor of management

and his expertise over the past 20 years has been to study and understand the dynamics of social networks.

And today we're going to be talking about his book, The Height Machine,

which is a rich analysis of the power of social media, both its promise and peril

and the book explores crucially how we might nudge, regulate and even legislate to build a healthier digital ecosystem.

We get into quite a lot of details.

As many of you will know, I'm a network theory nerd.

I love this stuff. I've read a lot of Sinan's papers over the past decade.

We have a really rich conversation. Please do enjoy it.

Sinan, welcome to exponential view.

Thanks for having me. Good to see you.

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