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And oh my god, what a great gal.

Michael also a, a, an integral part of the creative team here to call him merely a board operator

as a grievance insult Jack and I was in that is actually his title, but yeah, he's just

a terrific part of the team.

And you know, when he's not here, he's missed, although Hanson is filling in admirable.

So I love Portland, Oregon in a lot of ways.

I've spent a lot of time there.

I'm a boy used to live right outside Portland.

It's just it's a fun city.

It was mostly was the artsy physically beautiful rivers and bridges, eateries, bands

playing everywhere.

And you know, me, I'm crazy for the rock and roll music.

And just kind of a you do your thing.

I'll do mine vibe.

It reminds me of San Francisco years ago.

Probably what like San Francisco is like before I ever got to visit it.

Yeah, yeah, although, you know, when we first hit the West Coast decades ago, it was still

pretty cool and not completely out of control.

I wonder if I want to Portland like five years ago, Portland is what San Francisco, if

you're older, you could tell me what San Francisco was like when, you know, the grateful

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