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Hello and welcome to Coffeehouse Shots. I'm joined today by my colleague, Katie, Ball's, Spectators,

Dectady, Political Editor-Tet. Now at Katie Balls, the spectators, dexey, political editor.

Now, Katie, today is the five-year anniversary of the Brexit referendum. It does seem sometimes

like more than five years ago. How do you think it's changed British politics? I think it's changed

who the Prime Minister is, for one, several times. It's obviously impacted. I think it's changed British politics? Well, I think it's changed who the Prime Minister is for one, several times.

It's obviously impacted, I think, how we see through everything.

We've just had a pandemic by which it meant we stopped bickering about Brexit.

And also, in a way, the debate was over because we finally got to the point where we had left the EU.

But I think if you think back over the past five

years, it does feel as though our politics has been dominated by their issue. First in terms of

David Cameron's departure, then the arrival of Theresa May. And I think what dominated her entire

premiership was the question of Brexit, not helped by her decision to call the SNF election.

And the divides are creating the Tory party and then Boris Johnson, now the snap election and the divides of creating the Tory

party and then Boris Johnson now the Tory leader and the Prime Minister and the Conservative Party is

in a much better place just look at the polls where they are very far ahead but I think it's also

led to a different type of Tory party we have a situation where the makeup of the Tory party now

is full of you know former Labour heartlands that voted heavily

to leave. And you now have a situation where you look at the trash from an Amisham by election,

which doesn't seem to be specifically to do Brexit. But I also don't think it's unreasonable to make

the point that when David Cameron was prime minister, a lot of these constituencies seemed a lot safer than

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