Five Simple Steps
Nancy
WNYC Studios
4.8 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 29 June 2018
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
Content warning: This episode contains a reference to suicide.
Traveling to Taiwan with her mom, Kathy imagines the life she might have lived had her family stayed.
— Kathy's mom previously appeared on Nancy in the episodes "Hello Hello" and "Kathy's Mom is Uncomfortable With All This."
— Guo Mama is a volunteer at the Taiwan Tongzhi Hotline Association in Taipei.
— Li Te-Yun (Nan Gua) is a singer-songwriter in Taiwan.
Special thanks to Andrew Ryan, a host and producer with Radio Taiwan International.
Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Art of Escapism ("Done with Disco"), Uncan ("Unbroken"), and Little Glass Men ("Cloud Launching"). Theme by Alexander Overington.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I know before we start, this episode contains a reference to suicide. |
| 0:06.6 | I love Taiwan. |
| 0:09.6 | I was born there. I spent the first four years of my life there. |
| 0:13.2 | Growing up, I went back frequently with my family to visit. |
| 0:16.2 | I love the people, I love the scooters, I love the public transit. |
| 0:20.3 | And I love the food. Oh my god, I love the food so much. |
| 0:23.6 | You can eat all soup, me and Shen, bubble tea, stinky tofu, Taiwanese desserts. |
| 0:27.8 | I just love it all. |
| 0:30.0 | It's also the place where I discovered I was queer. |
| 0:32.9 | I spent a semester in college learning Mandarin in Taiwan and fell in love with the teacher. |
| 0:37.4 | Nothing ever happened, but that really was the beginning of me figuring out my queerness. |
| 0:42.4 | So when this happened, celebrations broke out across Taiwan this week |
| 0:46.0 | as a court ruling paved the way to the first same sex marriage law in Asia. |
| 0:52.4 | I was beside myself. |
| 0:54.7 | Last year, Taiwan's highest court ruled that same sex marriage is legal under its constitution, |
| 0:59.4 | even though no laws currently allow it. |
| 1:01.7 | And it gave the legislature two years to change the law. |
| 1:04.6 | And if they don't, then the Taiwanese government would just have to start issuing marriage licenses |
| 1:08.5 | to same sex couples. |
| 1:10.0 | So basically, same sex marriage is very likely happening. |
| 1:12.8 | It's just not official yet. |
| 1:15.3 | This news made some sense because Taiwan is maybe the most queer-friendly country in Asia. |
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