I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekina show.

Let's talk a little bit about something different today, Thomas.

How are you doing?

I'm doing well.

Thank you for hosting me.

Yeah, we can talk about, we can change up the, we can change up the subject, definitely.

Yeah, we'll get back to the Cold War on the next one.

But I've read Yaki.

I started reading Spangler, one of the essays that you recommended.

And it just speaks to me, really speaks to my heart.

And I know that Spangler and especially Yaki are a big part of your thought and where

you've taken a lot of inspiration from.

So I thought we'd do a little episode.

And I think they go together because Yaki uses so many spanglerisms and seems to have really dug deep into his work and integrated into his work.

So I guess let's start with the original.

What is it about Spengler that attracted you first?

Well, frankly, especially as the Cold War resolved,

Spangler was one of these,

was one of the only what we consider esoteric kind of thinkers that he came to before the internet.

There was a two-value, it was a bridge, but it was the two-value abridged version of the Quine of the West that I think Harvard University Press had put out in the 50s.

We'd have to double check.

It's part of this whole series on political theory.

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