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Kermode & Mayo’s Take

FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY’S 2: “I was struggling to stay awake” + Legendary James L Brooks

Kermode & Mayo’s Take

Sony Music

Film Reviews, Film Interviews, Tv Reviews, Tv & Film

4.32.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Some exciting news—The Take is now on Patreon: www.patreon.com/kermodeandmayo.  Become a Vanguardista or an Ultra Vanguardista to get video episodes of Take Two every week, plus member‑only chat rooms, polls and submissions to influence the show, behind‑the‑scenes photos and videos, the monthly Redactor’s Roundup newsletter, and access to a new fortnightly LIVE show—a raucous, unfiltered lunchtime special with the Good Doctors, new features, and live chat so you can heckle, vote, and have your questions read out in real time.  We have a bonafide film and TV legend in our midst this week: director of ‘Broadcast News’, ‘Terms of Endearment’ and ‘As Good As It Gets’—not to mention co-creator of The Simpsons—James L Brooks. He talks to Simon about his new comedy drama ‘Ella McCay’—his first film in 15 years. He unpacks the movie starring Emma Mackey (yes, the names are confusing), Jamie Lee Curtis, Woody Harrelson and Jack Lowden—and tells us why he’s nostalgic for 2008. Plus a bit of Simpsons chat—there are a few very familiar voices in this movie!   Mark reviews Eternity—the new A24 afterlife romcom that sees Elizabeth Olsen torn between two dead husbands, played by Miles Teller and Callum Turner. Plus we’ve got his verdict on the new film from exiled Iranian filmmaker Jafar Panahi too--’It Was Just an Accident’. This latest daring project has seen the banned filmmaker issued a jail sentence from the Iranian government. And finally, Five Nights at Freddy’s 2....You might remember how much Mark loved the first one (not)... but could the sequel win him over? Spoilers: it doesn’t—but strap in for a review that might be more entertaining than the movie.  All the box office top 10 news for you too, plus the weekly hilarity of the laughter lift. Enjoy!   Our LIVE Christmas Extravaganza at London’s Prince Edward Theatre is this weekend! Join us on 7th December—with special guest Nia DaCosta, and Jason Isaacs beaming in from the USA. Tickets here: fane.co.uk/kermode-mayo      Timecodes (for Vanguardistas listening ad-free)  Eternity review: 09:10  BO10: 19:50  James L Brooks Interview: 37:10  It Was Just An Accident review: 52:30 Laughter Lift: 1:02:32  Five Nights at Freddy’s 2 review: 01:07:32 Jay Kelly review: 01:14:41      You can contact the show by emailing correspondence@kermodeandmayo.com or you can find us on social media, @KermodeandMayo  Please take our survey and help shape the future of our show: https://www.kermodeandmayo.com/survey   EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee!  A Sony Music Entertainment production.      Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts    To advertise on this show contact: podcastadsales@sonymusic.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by Mooby, the global film company that champions great cinema.

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0:29.5

one battle after another and you think, wow, that Paul Thomas Anderson, he can really direct,

0:33.7

then check out Phantom Thread. Also, the fantastic performance by Daniel Day Lewis and Vicky

0:39.1

Creeps and a brilliant Leslie Manville with an amazing score by Johnny Greenwood, which is one of

0:44.1

my favourite scores of recent years. The whole film is an absolute miracle. Just don't eat the mushrooms.

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You can try Mooby free for 30 days at Mooby.com slash Kermode and Mayo. That's Mubi.com

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slash Kermode and Mayo for a whole month of great cinema for free. So Mark, you know when you've done

1:03.7

enough in a day? Let's say you've spoken about your new book for the first time, recorded our

1:09.1

wonderful show with the premium episodes

1:11.1

for subscribers, maybe rehearsed with a band, you know, like the gang of three, that kind of thing.

1:15.5

I'm getting tired at just a thought. Well, when you've done enough, Uber eats. Get my favorite meals.

1:22.8

Well, food, snacks, shopping, all the Epicurean delights which your heart desires. Imagine hopping onto that sleeper

1:29.9

depends ants. And as you're pulling out, you open Uber eats and have them deliver what you want

1:34.8

as you arrive home. What are you getting, would you say, in an ideal world? I don't know,

1:39.9

a plate of sushi and some ice cold Japanese beer. I have to say my favourite is the slightly guilty

1:45.7

last minute emergency supermarket delivery when you've just come back from holiday and you

1:50.8

realise you've got like nothing in the house at all. So when you've done enough, order some food

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