Fitness, Faith & Finding Your Purpose | Michael Smoak | Ep. 18
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
iHeartPodcasts
4.5 • 11.4K Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
From viral TikToks to coaching thousands, Michael Smoak from Higher Up Wellness reveals why the fitness industry is broken, how young men can reclaim their confidence, and what really matters when your world falls apart.
You’ll hear the story of how the death of his father became the catalyst for a spiritual awakening… and how physical discipline became the gateway to faith, purpose, and real transformation. Whether you’re 19 and lost, 40 and stuck, or just searching for clarity — this episode will hit you where it hurts and heal you where you need it most.
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Topics Covered:
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The truth about creatine, nicotine, and dopamine addiction
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How to stop chasing cheap dopamine and find real fulfillment
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The Higher Up Wellness challenge changing lives on TikTok
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Why physical health is the foundation for finding your purpose
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How grief, faith, and fatherhood forged Michael’s mission
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Breaking free from vices and reclaiming discipline
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What it really takes to become the man you’re meant to be
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:04.2 | Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? |
| 0:07.9 | We're not boring. |
| 0:08.9 | A lot of news is boring. |
| 0:09.8 | And tedious. |
| 0:10.7 | And depressing. |
| 0:11.3 | And makes you angry. |
| 0:12.7 | You don't want to live your life like that. |
| 0:15.0 | Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. |
| 0:16.0 | He's Joe Getty. |
| 0:16.7 | We're Armstrong and Getty. |
| 0:17.8 | We try to bring you the truth. |
| 0:18.9 | And help you figure out this crazy modern world. |
| 0:21.4 | How about something about a comedic tone? |
| 0:25.7 | We have a winner. |
| 0:27.3 | Yes. |
| 0:28.4 | Listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand on the IHeart Radio app. |
| 0:31.4 | Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:34.7 | All right. |
| 0:35.0 | It's not often that you get to have somebody come on your show that literally is exploding in an industry in a way that might not be the most conventional approach. |
| 0:51.0 | And this is one of my favorite comments from watching Mike's stuff on, |
| 0:55.5 | on, on, on TikTok and Instagram is I hate the fitness industry. Like, Mike, when I find that in |
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