Fishy business

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🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Fish farms promise to grow massive amounts of seafood to feed a hungry planet, and to do it ethically. But what’s good for the humans isn’t always good for the salmon. This episode was produced by Avishay Artsy, edited by Miranda Kennedy, fact-checked by Kelli Wessinger and Laura Bullard, engineered by David Tatasciore, and hosted by Noel King. The seafood counter at a Ralphs grocery store in Los Angeles. Photo by Avishay Artsy/Vox. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. New Vox members get $20 off their membership right now. Transcript at ⁠vox.com/today-explained-podcast.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	At McDonald's, there's always something to have.
0:04.2	I like the fish.
0:06.1	I like it.
0:09.8	In the barrage of executive orders that President Trump signed this year, one back in April
0:15.1	flew low under the radar.
0:17.9	The order aimed, among other things, to allow the expansion of aquaculture or fish farming
0:23.4	by relaxing regulations. It's crazy. The regulation? And the president has a point here. In
0:30.2	2022, for the first time, humans ate more fish that came from farms than fish that came from the sea.
0:36.3	Many of us think that this is much better,
0:38.4	more ethical, more environmentally sound,
0:40.7	than overfishing wild fish from the oceans.
0:43.4	So why not expand it?
0:45.6	Coming up on today explained,
0:46.8	Vox's Kenny Torella takes a deep dive, LOL,
0:49.5	into what's really been going on on fish farms.
1:00.1	Thank you. really been going on on fish farms. Support for this show comes from Odu.
1:02.9	Running a business is hard enough.
1:05.2	So why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other?
1:09.6	Introducing Odu.
1:12.2	It's the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all-in-one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier,
1:18.4	CRM, accounting, inventory, e-commerce, and more. And the best part, Odu replaces multiple
1:24.4	expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost.
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