She explores as proud to join Doiter again to have your back as you hit the trail ahead.

The adventures you choose are long lasting and Doiter believes your backpacks should be able to sustain as long as the memories do.

In 2020, Doiter became PFC-free, meaning they don't have toxic chemicals involved in their manufacturing

and are committed to doing their part to protect the planet from products to people.

Later in the episode we'll be checking back in with Deuter's ambassador, Kathy Carlo,

to learn about how she incorporates sustainability into her own well-being.

Find your perfect pack at doiter.com. That's DEU-T-E-R-D-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-O-C-C-C-O-C-O-C-Ome, and she incorporate sustainability. I'm Gaba baccha Moreno and you're listening to She Explores.

I catch big fish, I catch small fish sometimes I don't catch fish but I'm out here and I'm fat and I'm doing it and this is the world that I live in and this is how I am and this is who I am.

And it's not going to change today or tomorrow.

This is my friend Serene.

Hello, I'm Serene.

She hers, and I am here on the stolen land of the Bitterroot Salish and

Ponderay in Missoula, Montana.

Serene and I have a lot uncommon, most notably a love for fly fishing, which has also turned us into collaborators.

I wanted to interview Serene for my first She Explorers episode because honestly I'm a little nervous and I wanted to have the comfort of a friend by my side.

Beyond that I also want more folks to know Serene's ever generous soul, her hilarious humor, and the ways in which all she does gives back to our world.

Before we hear her fly fishing story, I want to share a question I ask her that just says a lot about who she is and what she deeply cares about.

Why is community in fly fishing so important to you?

Community and fly fishing is like one and the same.

Even if you are a person who chooses to go out fishing by themselves,

we all learn from each other.

We all grow from each other.

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