Fischer v. United States
5-4
Prologue Projects
4.6 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 20 August 2024
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Did the January 6th riot "obstruct an official proceeding"? That depends on how you interpret that very straightforward and unambiguous phrase.
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| 0:35.0 | We will hear argument this morning in case 23572, Fisher versus United States. |
| 0:41.6 | Hey, I'm versus United States. Hey everyone, this is Leon from Prolog Projects. |
| 0:47.0 | On this episode of 5-4, Peter, Rianen, and Michael are talking about Fisher v United States. |
| 0:54.8 | This is a case from the court's most recent term |
| 0:57.3 | that asks whether one can be charged with obstructing |
| 0:59.5 | an official proceeding after storming the capital |
| 1:02.1 | to obstruct an official proceeding. |
| 1:04.5 | The holding here really narrows the meaning of this statute that penalizes obstruction of an |
| 1:11.0 | official proceeding. |
| 1:12.0 | In a six to three decision, the court ruled that when Joseph Fisher joined January 6th |
| 1:16.8 | rioters to stop Congress from certifying the election of a new president, |
| 1:20.3 | he did not actually obstruct a legal proceeding, since he did not tamper with any |
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