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🗓️ 16 April 2024
⏱️ 101 minutes
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0:00.0 | We will hear argument this morning in case 235572, Fisher v. United States. |
0:06.4 | Mr. Green. |
0:07.3 | Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, Congress enacted 1512C in 2002 in the wake of the |
0:15.9 | large-scale destruction of Enron's financial documents. |
0:19.1 | The statute, therefore, prohibits the impairment of the |
0:23.6 | integrity or availability of information and evidence to be used in a proceeding. In 2002, |
0:31.6 | Congress hedged a little bit and added Section C2 to cover other forms of impairment, the known unknowns, so to speak. |
0:40.4 | It was, after all, the dawn of the information age. |
0:44.8 | Until the January 6th prosecutions, Section 1512C2, the otherwise provision, |
0:52.3 | had never been used to prosecute anything other than evidence |
0:55.6 | tampering. And that was for good reason. This Court has said that otherwise, when used in a |
1:01.9 | criminal statute, means to do similar conduct in a different way. The government would have you |
1:09.2 | ignore all that or disregard all that and instead convert C2 |
1:14.4 | from a catch-all provision into a dragnet. One of the things that that dragnet would cover is |
1:20.5 | section C-1. Our construction of the statute at least leaves C-1 and C C2 to do some independent work. |
1:29.8 | The January 6th prosecutions demonstrate that there are a host of felony and misdemeanor crimes |
1:37.5 | that cover the alleged conduct. |
1:41.6 | A Sarbanes-Oxley-based, Enron-driven, evidence- tampering statute is not one of them. I welcome the Court's |
1:51.0 | questions. |
1:52.4 | Mr. Green, how do we determine what these two provisions have in common? Do we look after the |
2:00.1 | otherwise or before before and why? |
2:03.0 | You look at before, Justice Thomas, and you look at the kinds of manner in which documents |
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