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Pantsuit Politics

FISA, Flynn, and Failure

Pantsuit Politics

Lemonada Media

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4.54.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2017

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

We're talking about the FISA process, Retired General Michael Flynn, and the failure of the American Health Care Act.  The Pearls We comfort ourselves about our miserable election predictions by noting that we predicted that the American Health Care Act would not make it through the House of Representatives. And it didn't. Big winners: the American people for not being subjected to a half-baked, not-really-about-health-care-health-care-bill. Big losers: Paul Ryan, Donald Trump, Republicans generally.  Sadly, we have two incidents of violence to acknowledge. A British man, Khalid Masood, rammed his vehicle into a crowd at Westminster Bridge in London after stabbing a police officer. His connections to Saudi Arabia have police still investigating his possible motives. On Sunday morning, a dispute escalated into a shooting in a Cincinnati, Ohio, night club, leaving one person dead and 15 injured. Our prayers are with everyone impacted in London and Cincinnati.  For our compliments to the other party, Sarah tipped her hat to the Freedom Caucus for standing their ground in opposition to the AHCA. Beth complimented the Democratic lawmakers behind the Making Access Records Available to Lead American Government Openness Act (the MAR-A-LAGO Act), which would require the White House to publish its visitor logs and mandate the release of visitor logs when the President conducts business...elsewhere.  The Suit We start with a mini-primer on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act ("FISA"), which was enacted in 1978 to protect Americans’ privacy in the midst of counter-terrorism efforts. A law enforcement training white paper helped us significantly in understanding key provisions of FISA. FISA was enacted to limit the presidents' power and to create a judicially-manageable standard for issuing warrants in national security investigations.  The key provisions of FISA were:  Non-criminal electronic surveillance can only occur for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence and foreign counterintelligence Foreign powers and agents of foreign powers could be targeted for electronic surveillance (foreign powers and agents of foreign powers are defined in the statute—explicitly says “non US persons” — US persons are citizens, legal permanent residents, US corporations, unincorporated associates with a substantial number of members who are citizens or lawful permanent residents)  The government needs probable cause to conduct surveillance (and set a probable cause standard) Established foreign intelligence surveillance courts (FISC) at the district and appellate... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Between the American Healthcare Act and the investigation into leaks and the Trump campaign's possible coordination with Russia, it feels like Washington DC is unraveling.

0:08.0

We're discussing the facts of FISA, Michael Flynn, and the AHCA failure.

0:14.0

This is Sarah from the left and Beth from the right.

0:17.0

You're listening to Pant suit politics.

0:19.0

No shouting, no insults, plenty of nuance.

0:30.0

Today we are covering the failure of the healthcare bill and the pearls as well as attacks in London and Cincinnati, Ohio.

0:48.0

In a suit, we're going to talk about FISA, Michael Flynn, and where the investigation into the Trump administration stands.

0:56.0

And then in the heels, we're going to talk about what we're thinking about other than politics.

1:00.0

So we're kicking off the pearls with the discussion of the American Healthcare Act failure.

1:04.0

And I'm not saying this completely undoes our terrible job predicting the election, but hey, we both said this was going to fail and it did.

1:11.0

So there's one more in our column after the bad prediction that happened over the election.

1:17.0

Well, I think that's right. And I think that we had a good sense that it wasn't only going to fail, it wasn't even going to see the light of a vote, which is ultimately what happened at Paul Ryan's urging, according to most reporting, President Trump ultimately decided to just pull the bill from consideration.

1:36.0

So who are you think giving your biggest winners and biggest losers?

1:41.0

I think probably the biggest winners are the American people, because we're not going to be subjected to a half-assed attempt at reforming Medicaid under the guise of reforming healthcare.

1:57.0

Well, and there was a tweet where somebody was like, you know, they were on Medicaid and they had a disabled child or something.

2:03.0

I mean, there were people who were legitimately panicked and incredibly anxious and stressed about this perhaps going through. So, hooray for those people.

2:13.0

This just never made any sense. You know, from the beginning, it was critiqued on all sides. And I think that's because it was, it was hurried.

2:22.0

You know, the idea that they had spent seven years on this made no sense at any point. And so, I mean, I think I don't think anybody in Washington, D.C. looks great coming out of this though.

2:33.0

I mean, Paul Ryan's ability to govern is certainly in question. The president looks like someone who doesn't have the attention span to talk about a piece of legislation for more than a few days without getting bored and pissed off and ready to move on to something else.

2:49.0

Democrats just kind of had to sit around and look pretty because they knew anyway this went down. It was good for them.

2:55.0

So, it was just, it was a pretty miserable failure of leadership period. You know, I think the moderate Republicans and the freedom caucus might have good things to say. But in the long run, this just looks like you can't give Republicans the keys because they don't know how to drive.

3:13.0

Somehow, I feel like, I don't know if I'd call him a winner, but Mitch McConnell, because this died on the house and it's all being laid at Paul Ryan's feet primarily, seems to come out a little bit ahead compared to some other Republicans.

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