Hello and welcome back to Middle Ground. Guys, we did it. It is Jaycey on the mic. Hi guys. And by on the mic,

I mean, we have a little bit different of an audio setup because I left all of the equipment in

Arkansas. I am in Missouri for Jay's daughter, Marin's first birthday. It is actually the

evening of her first birthday. We celebrated today and party is tomorrow. But if the audio

sounds a little off, that's why I apologize. We're doing the best we can. So I'm really, really excited about

this week. We've been talking about this episode for a long time. And Jacey and I discussed at length

that we thought this would be really interesting because we had polar opposite experiences in most ways becoming new moms.

Yeah. But it was also really beautiful because I feel like we were able to really celebrate the

wins for one another and really support one another in the I was insane I feel like

we were able to support each other at various times yeah when one of us was in kind of a low point

like if you were I was able to support you and when I was going through a tough time you were able

to support me because we were going through different things.

I agree.

It was just, I don't know.

And I think hopefully it'll be comforting for some of you to listen to, whether you have

children, want children, or are a mom, new mom, any of those things.

I think it will just be comforting.

Because I think both of us had relatively positive experiences, even through a lot of the really hard things.

Definitely.

And I think it's just good to hear different experiences because, I don't know, if you only talk to like your one best friend or a couple of best friends and maybe your experience was harder, that can be kind of discouraging or make you feel like maybe you're being dramatic or something.

That's something I go through a lot because some things were way harder for me than for Joe. And I'm like, was something wrong with me that like recovery was really hard?

Yeah.

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