M-S-S-W media. The The bombshell public impeachment hearings started this week.

What mattered and what comes next? Let's get on topic. Welcome to On Topic, a weekly in-depth look at a topic that helps us understand the week's

news. My name is Renato Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a

practicing lawyer, and a CNN legal analyst. I'm usually joined by my friend Patty Vasquez, but she's still on the campaign

trail this week. So I'm going to be bringing in our guest, Maya Wiley, in just a moment.

But before I introduce her, I want to note that this episode is brought

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so let's bring in our guest, Maya Wiley.

You probably know her because she's a legal analyst on NBC News and MS NBC,

but she's had a distinguished legal career.

And in fact, she was the chief legal advisor for the New York City Mayor.

She's also now currently the Senior Vice President for Social Justice

at the New School University.

And she is also an expert on digital equity and co directs their digital equity laboratory.

So I am excited to speak with her. This is her first time on the podcast. So let's bring her in now.

Welcome to the podcast, Maya, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you, Renato. It's great to be on. Look you and I have been

shared I think privately a lot of thoughts about the hearings this week I'm

curious what is your you know key reactions is I think a quite a week a very important moment.

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