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The reason why I got into the space over a decade ago was I looked at the security model that

these systems were offering and realized that, you know, cryptography and math really allows

us to give an asymmetric advantage to individuals and the ability for them to defend themselves

against adversaries, even at the level of nation states.

With all the talk about price action lately in the inflows and outflows of Bitcoin

ETFs, I wanted to turn to an interview I did with Jameson Lopp.

He's the co-founder in CTO of CASA, a Bitcoin self-custody solution.

Now, Jameson has been in this industry for over a decade.

He's lived through the Bulls and the Bears, and he remains bullish on the Bitcoin ecosystem.

When it comes to Bitcoin, what's he excited about?

Let's take a listen.

Jameson Lobb, welcome to First Mover.

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