Ledger Stacks has begun shipping to customers who pre-ordered the new wallet design was created in collaboration with the builder of the iPod and hopes to bring clarity and confidence to securing digital value.

Joining me now to discuss and unpack what's going on here as Ledger Chief Experience Officer Ian Rogers. Hey, Ian.

Hi, how are you? Thanks for having me. I'm great. Welcome

to the show. And I am actually very excited to talk to you because I remember when this product

was announced. I think it was 18 months ago. And it was really exciting. We spoke about it on a show that

used to air on Coin Desk called The Hash. We were all very pumped about it.

18 months later, it is shipping to customers for pre-ordered. Talk to me about what happened.

What happened those last 18 months? Sure. Yeah. So we did. We announced the product in December of 22,

with the plan to ship it in March of 23.

We did pre-orders.

We stopped pre-orders relatively early because we were, you know, we didn't know how many we would have when.

And really the supplier of the screen had believed that it would be available and they

were wrong.

You know, so we made a little mini documentary to tell the full story

with many of the suppliers and the CEO of E-ink, you know, talking about it.

But, you know, this is a new technology.

So this is the world's first organic TFT. So it is a curved display. In this case,

it's an E-ink display where the screen actually goes all the way around the edge and curves 180 degrees

to the back on a 3 millimeter radius. And that had never been done before.

And what it is where most, you know, your Kindle is silicon on glass.

This is an organic substrate on on plastic.

So the screen is actually, you know, plastic where your,

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