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Podcasts By The Scottish Parliament

First Minister’s Questions 2 November 2023

Podcasts By The Scottish Parliament

The Scottish Parliament

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🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

First Minister Humza Yousaf MSP answers questions from oppositions party leaders and other MSPs during this weekly question time. Transcripts of FMQs are available on our website: https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/what-was-said-and-official-reports/what-was-said-in-parliament/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Thank you. That concludes general questions. The next item of business is First Minister's

0:04.2

questions. At question number one, I call Douglas Ross.

0:06.7

Thank you, Mr President. In June 2021, the Scottish Government were told to retain

0:13.9

messages relevant to their handling of the COVID pandemic. But five months later, the SMP introduced a policy to destroy WhatsApp messages.

0:26.5

This is the digital equivalent of building a bonfire to torch the evidence.

0:32.9

So, First Minister, why did the SMP bring in a policy to delete messages after they have been told to keep

0:40.2

them?

0:41.2

First of all, of course, the policy being referred to by Douglas Ross is a general policy

0:46.3

around messaging, mobile messaging, including informal messaging, such as WhatsApp.

0:53.3

Of course, what is key when we got the advisory notice is particularly from the Scottish inquiry and

0:58.4

then when we received information from the UK Government in relation to the UK inquiry,

1:04.8

it was made very clear to officials, to civil servants, to ministers, to cabinet secretaries, that any information

1:13.6

that was relevant or could be potentially relevant to the inquiries should be retained

1:19.6

and, of course, appropriately recorded within our record management system.

1:23.6

That is why 14,000 WhatsApp messages are in the process of being handed over, now that we

1:28.2

have the Section 21 order.

1:31.2

It is why 19,000 documents have already been submitted.

1:34.3

It is why, when I submit my final statement, it will have unredacted WhatsApp messages handed

1:40.3

over to the inquiry.

1:42.3

I should say, that is in very stark contrast to the Prime Minister who tried to take the public

1:48.2

inquiry to court, lost, of course, in the courts, and is still refusing to hand over his

1:53.7

WhatsApp messages.

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