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Ridiculous History

First Ladies Who Weren't Wives, Part Two, Part Two: Some Folks Didn't Want The Job

Ridiculous History

iHeartPodcasts

History, Society & Culture

4.34.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Imagine one of your family members attains the highest political position in American history -- your uncle or sibling becomes the President of the United States! And, as Ben, Noel and Max learn in today's episode: many people were called to play the role of First Lady. Turns out: several people genuinely didn't want the job.

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0:00.0

Ridiculous History is a production of IHeart Radio. Welcome back to the show.

0:28.2

Fellow ridiculous historians.

0:29.8

Thank you, as always, so much for tuning in.

0:32.7

That's our super producer.

0:34.5

Mr. Max, welcome back, Williams.

0:36.7

Welcome back, welcome back. I love that theme song for that.

0:42.2

Mr. Cotterre. Yes. Yeah, you nailed it. Who just nailed that? That's Mr. Noel Brown.

0:47.8

They call me Ben Bullen. This is our continuing series on the first ladies who weren't wives.

0:55.8

Please check out our previous episodes on this.

0:58.8

And I'm excited about this one, Noel,

1:01.0

because as our research associate, Jeff Factor G, Bartlett revealed to us fairly recently in his research,

1:09.4

there's one first lady who just didn't want the job.

1:15.6

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