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🗓️ 9 March 2023
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Don talks to former White House reporter Kate Andersen Brower about how the role of First Lady has changed - and stayed the same - since the 1960s. Supporting their husband's presidency, while pursuing their own agenda. Each putting their stamp on their time in office - while often forming stronger bonds than their male counterparts.
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0:00.0 | January 20th, 2021, Washington, D.C. Joe Biden is sworn in as the 46th President of the United States. |
0:11.0 | Next to him, of course, course is his wife Jill Biden. But alongside |
0:14.9 | Vice President Kamala Harris, our nation's first female VP, is our nation's first |
0:20.2 | second gentleman, her husband Doug. |
0:23.1 | For that matter, Jill Biden is something new herself. |
0:26.2 | She is the first first lady to hold a job outside of the White House |
0:30.5 | as she continues her career as a teacher, pursuing her own life and agenda alongside her husbands. |
0:37.0 | The First Lady has been an ever-evolving role in our presidential politics, |
0:41.0 | one that's reflected the personality of the woman who |
0:43.7 | has occupied the office and the personality of the nation who has elected her spouse. |
0:48.6 | It's been this way all the way back to Martha Washington in 1789. |
0:53.0 | And it'll be this way when the First Lady finally becomes |
0:55.8 | First Gentlemen, no doubt sooner than we think. Hi everyone welcome to the podcast I'm Don Wildman. It's great that you could listen. |
1:12.4 | First Lady is a title I'm Don Wildman. It's great that you could listen. |
1:13.0 | First Lady is a title that comes loaded with responsibilities and expectations that exist in no manual or rulebook and certainly not in our US Constitution. The role is a fact of life for |
1:26.5 | the spouse of any US president, whichever he or she we elect every four years. Yet its reality |
1:32.4 | is it's a contradiction within itself. The |
1:35.1 | First Lady has always been required to play two roles, inward and |
1:38.8 | outward, public and private. Demanding from the title holder, those women down the ages of American history, a kind of behavior that would tie any normal human being into knots. |
1:49.0 | It's a challenge and an enormous factor in the day-to-day life of any administration. |
1:54.4 | And these stories have been told in a great book called First Women, |
1:58.0 | The Grace and Power of America's Modern First Ladies, published in 2016 by our guest today. Kate Anderson Brower. |
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