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Great Lives

First Labour Prime Minister Ramsay MacDonald

Great Lives

BBC

Documentary, History, Society & Culture

4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2019

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Ramsay MacDonald, Labour's first Prime Minister, is chosen by Shaun Ley.

In 1931 Ramsay MacDonald went to see the king in order to resign. George V persuaded him to stay, and a story of party betrayal began.

Broadcaster Shaun Ley and journalist Anne Perkins pick through events that have a contemporary ring as the political class of the thirties struggled to cope with fast moving events.

MacDonald's own story and background is remarkable too - illegitimate son, born in Lossiemouth in Scotland, he is remembered as one of the early founding fathers of the Labour party, and a man who bravely spoke out against the First World War.

Presenter: Mathew Parris

Producer: Miles Warde

First broadcast on BBC Radio 4 in August 2019.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and trust me you'll get there in a moment but if you're a comedy fan

0:05.2

I'd really like to tell you a bit about what we do. I'm Julie Mackenzie and I commission comedy

0:10.2

podcast at the BBC. It's a bit of a dream job really.

0:13.0

Comedy is a fantastic joyous thing to do because really you're making people laugh,

0:18.0

making people's days a bit better, helping them process, all manner of things.

0:22.0

But you know I also know that comedy is really

0:24.4

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0:29.6

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0:36.2

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0:41.6

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0:45.7

The Great Lives Club already counts a few Prime Ministers among its members, Clement

0:50.6

Attley, Winston Churchill, Benjamin Disraeli, Duke of Wellington, David Lloyd George, not yet Margaret Thatcher.

0:57.0

These are all fairly well-known names.

1:00.0

Today's addition to the list is not in that pantheon.

1:03.4

Ramsey McDonald, but my goodness he's interesting.

1:06.7

His nominator, the political broadcaster Sean Lay,

1:09.8

describes him as the rock star politician of his day.

1:13.8

Let's just listen to a brief, rather creaky clip

1:17.0

of McDonald himself speaking.

1:19.7

We, in common with every nation in the world have been going through hard times.

1:27.0

The world's commerce has been contracting.

1:30.0

Our own national income has been shrinking. The suffering of too many of our fellows has been deplorable.

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