Hello and welcome to the Storygrid podcast. My name is Tim Graal. I'm your host and I'm a struggling

writer trying to figure out how to tell a story that works. Joining me shortly is Sean Coyne. He's the

creator and founder of Storygrid and he's an editor with over 30 years of experience. Along with him

is Daniel Kowalski, the chief academic officer of Story University, and Leslie Watts, the editor-in-chief of StoryGrid Publishing.

In this week, we continue from last week where we're discussing the scene that I wrote and figuring out the best way to go forward and keep me learning as a writer.

It's a really fun discussion where we dive deep into two-factor

problems. We look at why this works as a scene in a greater story instead of a short story,

and overall, just talk about what kind of things I need to do to keep leveling up as a writer.

So it's a really fun episode. I think you'll get a lot out of it. Again, if you would like to actually

read the scene we're discussing, you can find it in the description below the YouTube video,

or you can go to storygrid.com slash episode dash 267. All right, that's it. Let's jump in and get started.

Okay. So last time we got started with looking at your

draft, Tim, and we talked through the blue layer, the red layer, and then started getting into

the green layer. And as happens when we go through this kind of analysis, we looked at a little bit of

the green, and then we had to cycle back up through the red and even to

the blue to figure out how the changes on the page are affecting the other layers of analysis.

And so I think that it's worth noting that we asked a question, which is sometimes we would consider it the easiest question, right?

What are the avatars literally doing?

And from that, we got just a cascade of insights into what happens in your story at the red level looking at the narrative device and the double factor problem space.

And even at the blue level that we started to talk about what would change in your five

leaves of the genre clover.

So we started talking about how instead of a worldview revelation, you might have a different

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