The same journeys of growth that I've seen women, especially like black and brown women, have just kind of like paved away.

Going them as well.

If your wife is, you know, reading Bray Brown or something like that, then read Bray Brown.

We got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast from red, wine, and blue.

Hi, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I'm Jasmine Clark. I'm Amanda Weinstein. I'm Rachel Vindman. And you're listening to the suburban women problem. So we talk a lot about moms on this podcast. All three of us are moms and a lot of our listeners are moms. Although, of course, plenty of suburban women also do not have kids. Everyone is welcome here. And even on the other side,

we talk a lot about moms for liberty, but not many people are talking about dads. So this week,

I talked to Fred Joseph about his book, Patriarchy Blues, and we had a really great conversation

about sons and fathers.

And before that, we'll be joined by Darren Lausden, a dad in Pennsylvania who's been speaking

at school board meetings and standing up against book bands. But before we get to all that,

how are y'all and how is your Fourth of July? Well, very beachy. It was very nice. We usually stay and do a lot of

4th of July, Ohio things, which is super fun, but it was nice to get a little break away. So that was a lot of fun.

Yeah, I went to the beach as well. I just, it was a very short trip, but it was impromptu. I needed to get some writing done.

And so I decided to do a little writing retreat.

And I had a choice between mountains or beach.

But since it's summer, I chose beach.

We should do a writing retreat.

But it did let me get away from like all of the news, which was nice.

Nice.

So I feel like you all should tell me what's going on right now.

I just, I had a really fun Fourth of July at home by myself with the dogs, but now my

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