'Firestorm' with Jacob Soboroff
Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast
MS NOW, Chris Hayes
4.6 • 9.1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You know, this book is a book about, it reads like a sci-fi thriller, but it's a real lived experience that we all had in L.A. as Angelinos, and I think that we'll, that everyone will experience at some point soon. It's a book about people as much as it is about politics and as is about the climate. And I just think of all the people that I met. I needed this book so badly for myself because it was such a traumatizing thing that I think I'd probably |
| 0:21.2 | still have some form of, if not diagnosable PTSD. Like, this was a collective trauma that we all |
| 0:26.8 | experienced together. |
| 0:41.6 | Hello, and welcome to Why Is This Happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes. You know, it was only a year ago that Los Angeles was devastated by some of the worst wildfires in recent recorded history. |
| 0:48.4 | It feels like another era. |
| 0:50.8 | It feels like I can't believe it was only a year ago, but there was a lot about it that |
| 0:55.7 | has stuck with me. Partly, it was the first, it was kind of the first introduction to the Trump |
| 1:01.2 | second term, even though he wasn't yet president because he was the incoming president. |
| 1:06.1 | Everybody was in a kind of state of shock and depression and stupor. I mean, people that aren't big Donald Trump fans. |
| 1:13.9 | And he was just unfathomably gross and reckless about it. |
| 1:18.5 | And all of the traits that we've come to expect in him and seen under a crisis, making up lies, blaming people, berating people, not doing anything helpful, looking to sort of distance |
| 1:29.1 | himself from blame. It's also a climate event in a time when we have a administration that |
| 1:35.4 | is dead set on accelerating and worsening the climate crisis, cutting money to mitigate the climate |
| 1:42.7 | crisis, trying to basically subsidize coal so that we burn more of it. |
| 1:46.8 | And also it was just a profoundly intense wrenching human tragedy. I learned a lot about a bunch of |
| 1:52.6 | different communities in Los Angeles I'd never learned about. I learned about the geography |
| 1:56.2 | and the sort of weather conditions and about the heroism of the people that tried to fight it. |
| 2:01.8 | And it was a sort of incredible moment and came and went. |
| 2:04.5 | And like so many things that we cover in the news, the news cycle moves so fast that you move on to the next thing. |
| 2:10.3 | And you're left with a bunch of unresolved questions and storylines and things that you want to know. |
| 2:14.3 | And so I was so excited to get my hands a few weeks ago on the new |
| 2:19.8 | New York Times bestselling book, Firestorm, the great Los Angeles fire and America's New Age disaster |
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