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Fired immigration judge gives inside look at Trump's deportation agenda

PBS News Hour - Segments

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

Since returning to office, Trump has made sweeping changes to the legal immigration system, including speeding up deportations and tamping down on asylum seekers. The Justice Department has also fired more than 100 sitting immigration judges and is now advertising to hire so-called "deportation judges" in their place. Ali Rogin speaks with one of the fired judges for more. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Since returning to office, President Trump has made sweeping changes to the legal immigration system,

0:05.9

including speeding up deportations and tamping down on asylum seekers.

0:10.1

The Justice Department has also fired more than 100 sitting immigration judges and is now advertising to hire so-called deportation judges in their place.

0:20.3

Ali Rogan recently spoke with one of the fired judges.

0:24.3

Jeremiah Johnson served as an immigration judge in San Francisco for eight years.

0:28.9

He was appointed during President Trump's first term.

0:32.6

In November, he was fired.

0:34.7

Johnson also serves as the Executive vice president of the National Association of

0:39.0

Immigration Judges, and since his firing, he's been traveling south of the U.S. border to

0:44.3

understand the implications of his and other judge's decisions. Judge Johnson, thank you so much

0:50.4

for joining me. President Trump has pursued an aggressive agenda of deportations and detentions since taking

0:57.8

office.

0:58.8

How did that political agenda impact the work that you and your colleagues were doing in the

1:03.6

courts?

1:05.6

What you saw were judges were given a little time to make those important decisions.

1:10.2

You saw an increase in cases. You saw

1:13.8

pressure to decide cases, dockets ballooned. So it didn't allow judges the opportunity to take the

1:21.3

time to consider the evidence and get everything right. For example, in before July of the past year, I was hearing

1:28.8

three individual cases a day. That included testimony, reading through evidence, submitted,

1:34.9

and making a decision. In July, I was three additional detained docket cases were added to my

1:42.1

docket, so I was hearing six cases a day. The stakes couldn't be

1:45.8

hired. These were people that were fleeing their countries, claiming that they would be murdered,

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