It is my privilege today to be joined by Vermont snowboarding coach, Mr. David Block and Alliance

defending freedom attorney, Matthew Hoffman. Gentlemen, thanks so much for being here.

My pleasure. Thanks for having us.

Well, Coach Block, you have an incredibly powerful story and we're going to get into some of the

details of your story, how earlier this year, when you were at a competition with some of your

students, there was a conversation being had about men, biological men competing in women's sports,

and you explained to your students that yes, there are biological differences between men and

women. Ultimately, those remarks cost you your job. So we're going to dive into that here in

just a minute. But first, I'd love just to hear a little bit about how you got into snowboarding.

When did you first start snowboarding? I started snowboarding about 40 years ago.

Okay, been doing it for a long time. A long time. And why did you decide to start coaching?

I had started a local, not for problem, snowboard program and a local hill that helped kids,

local kids that one way shape or form couldn't make it to the mountain, whether financial or

social or behavioral issues. It's like a, it's a Friday, we call it a local Friday program.

A couple of those parents had high school kids that wanted to start a team. So those parents

approached me and the rest is history. And we just started, we started a program 12 years ago.

Sony, what do you enjoy most about coaching? There's a lot, but as you are asking that question,

what comes to mind immediately is the kids. I love being on the snow, the wind and the powder and

the moguls and the tricks and the progression of the kids and all that stuff is just so amazing

to watch on the snow. But it's really to see the kids grow from a freshman on up and now I allow

middle school, middle schoolers to come into. But just to watch the progression and off the snow,

I think is, it's so incredible to watch these, the progress. And that's with all sports. But

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