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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Fired at 59: Lessons on Job Insecurity in the U.S.

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Broadcast journalist Ray Suarez was 59 when he lost a dream job that took decades to reach. What he did next reveals a harsh reality of class blindness and the consequences of job insecurity in the U.S. His experience inspired a new podcast that “gives voice to people who have lost jobs, lost their homes, and sometimes lost the narrative thread of their lives.” He joins host Kai Wright to preview his story and helps take calls from our listeners. Listen to Going for Broke With Ray Suarez, a new podcast by the Economic Hardship Reporting Project and The Nation. Companion listening for this episode: Maybe We Just Want Less ‘Work’ (9/7/2021) The “Great Resignation” appears to be a real thing. But why? We ask workers what they really want. Plus, 45 questions to help us understand each other, and ourselves. “The United States of Anxiety” airs live on Sunday evenings at 6pm ET. The podcast episodes are lightly edited from our live broadcasts. To catch all the action, tune into the show on Sunday nights via the stream on WNYC.org/anxiety or tell your smart speakers to play WNYC. We want to hear from you! Connect with us on Twitter @WNYC using the hashtag #USofAnxiety or email us at anxiety@wnyc.org.

Transcript

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0:00.0

A lot of you will write away recognize this voice.

0:05.0

Good evening, I'm Ray Suarez.

0:07.0

Ray Suarez spent years as an anchor and host in public media,

0:10.0

and then at almost 60 years old he got laid off.

0:14.3

So suddenly in that very moment I became the person that I used to cover.

0:19.9

You know I did personal finance stories, I did economic crisis stories, and now there I am sitting on my living room

0:25.8

couch in the predicament saying how did this happen to me? You know I just thought that I had built in enough bumpers around myself and there I was.

0:38.8

Coming up, Ray tells his story and we consider the lessons it has for all of us about job security as we

0:45.2

age and about how we see each other across class lines. At what age do you anticipate being able to retire?

0:57.0

Probably like around 70, which is a stretch. I have a lot of student loans.

1:06.1

Do you think that it was a part of the American promise that there would be something

1:11.5

there for people for when they are older and want to retire.

1:15.6

Like I know that for sure my mom and my dad that's the reason why they came to this country

1:20.1

is because of like the benefits that you would receive being a US citizen but they're talking

1:24.6

about how Social Security is going to run out so for our generation we would definitely

1:28.6

have to like reform all of these social programs in order to even have the possibility to use it to the extent

1:34.8

of the generations before.

1:36.1

It'll take a lot of work.

1:37.1

Definitely getting rid of a lot of the older generation in the government because they don't realize how much we are struggling just to be able to live.

1:47.0

Welcome to the show, I'm Kayai Wright and let me tell you that probably the primary

1:56.2

anxiety of my life these days is how I am going to afford everything about my life as I get older.

2:04.0

And I mean, look, don't get me wrong. I do all right these days, but I have certainly been broke many times in my life.

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